Seeing as these bodies have been approved in the USA (see SlotBlog), we could add them to our list.Keith Tanaka wrote: Recently approved bodies for D3 (submitted by Ron Hershman of Outisight):
Recently approved bodies for D3 (submitted by Ron Hershman of Outisight):
Note: this is in addition to other Outisight bodies already on the approved D3 body listing.
F1:
OS-432N Vintage Ferrari Type L F-1 Narrow 1/24
OS-433N Vintage Matra Type L F-1 Narrow 1/24
OS-434N Vintage Ferrari Dynamic Narrow F-1 1/24
Can Am:
OS-410 Vintage Ferrari 612 Pro Can-Am Short
OS-411 Vintage Kirby 69 McLaren M-8A Can-Am Short
OS-415 Vintage Ti-22 Kirby "Narrow Nose"
OS-451 Vintage Ferrari 612 Bloom Waters Can-Am 1/24
OS-454 Vintage 67 McLaren M6A 1/24
OS-455 Vintage 67 Ferrari 350 Dynamic 1/24
OS-456 Vintage Dynamic Porsche 908 Spyder 1/24
OS-463 Vintage 68 McLaren M8A Can-Am 1/24
OS-464 Vintage Lola T-163 Can-Am 1/24
OS-465 Vintage 67 Honker II Can-Am 1/24
OS-466 Vintage 68 Ferrari 612 Can-Am 1/24
OS-467 Vintage 68 Lola T-160 Can-Am 1/24
LeMans Coupe:
OS-457 Vintage Dynamic McLaren Coupe 1/24
OS-458 Vintage Dynamic Porsche 908 Coupe 1/24
OS-460 Vintage Dynamic Courage Mirage M2 Coupe 1/24
OS-461 Vintage Dynamic Mirage M-1 Coupe 1/24
OS-462 Vintage Dynamic Sunoco Lola T-70 Coupe 1/24
Keith
New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
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Steve King
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
Sounds Good to me, especially as Now HSC is carrying Outisight bodies
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
how does this go for the Sunset Vintage Lola T-163 Can-Am 1/24 Body?
the T-160 is on our List
the T-160 is on our List
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
As you say, the Lola 160 is already in the list.Perry wrote:how does this go for the Sunset Vintage Lola T-163 Can-Am 1/24 Body?
the T-160 is on our List
Do you have a photo of the Lola T163?
Steve King
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
sorry for the delay
Its a Sunset Lola TS162
Perry
Its a Sunset Lola TS162
Perry
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Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
Perry, do you know the history behind the Sunset Lola T162 body?
Is it a copy from an original 60's body, or one that Bob created more recently?
If it is a copy of an original 60's body, can you provide details like manufacturer, part number, photo, etc?
It looks a bit more 'aero' than the real car, and may be a more recent 'flexi' style body.
The aim with the Can-Am bodies is to use original, or accurate duplicates, of original 1960's slot car bodies.
Or recently made bodies of pre 1970 cars, that have been made in the same manner, scalewise, as those of the 60's.
While they were not true to scale, they did reasonably well depict the real car, as opposed to the 'aero' enhanced flexi car bodies of later periods.
So 'slammed' or heavily 'aero' enhanced bodies are not suitable.
Is it a copy from an original 60's body, or one that Bob created more recently?
If it is a copy of an original 60's body, can you provide details like manufacturer, part number, photo, etc?
It looks a bit more 'aero' than the real car, and may be a more recent 'flexi' style body.
The aim with the Can-Am bodies is to use original, or accurate duplicates, of original 1960's slot car bodies.
Or recently made bodies of pre 1970 cars, that have been made in the same manner, scalewise, as those of the 60's.
While they were not true to scale, they did reasonably well depict the real car, as opposed to the 'aero' enhanced flexi car bodies of later periods.
So 'slammed' or heavily 'aero' enhanced bodies are not suitable.
Steve King
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
I will just use it as a practice body, that isn't a problem.
I have a number of unpainted bodies and it was just one in the box.
it did have "Geoghegan" written on it if that is any help.
I have a number of unpainted bodies and it was just one in the box.
it did have "Geoghegan" written on it if that is any help.
Building Retro and Any Chassies, Motor True and Magnet Zapping
I just want to have Fun Again !
I just want to have Fun Again !
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
Hmm,..Yeah Right!,..Thanks Bob,..lol
Sigh,..
You know, I have absolutely No Idea, Who, What, Why or Where, those absolute Bastardisations of The Real cars Ever came from.
It Must have been for some local SA class of Flexi's or something??
There is a Whole Bunch of Sunset Bodies like that, that seem to have 'Grown', Ti-22/March 707/Brm type perimeter Air Dam like structures, that in No way replicate the Real car.
IMHO, that particular body is SO Far from the original, that if you Had Not Told me it was even a Lola, I would Never have Guessed.
See Here; http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/1251 ... rolet.html
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z9087/Lola-T163.aspx
http://www.lolaheritage.co.uk/scrapbook ... _page6.htm
http://www.ritzsite.demon.nl/Sportscars/Lola2.htm
and that is But a few.
It was a 'development' of the 160 Series of cars and even in the latter cars, never had the 'Dished/bowled' upper surface as that body has.
I like Bob and have over the years used Many of his bodies, but I would have to say that Currently, there Aren't actually that many Sunset bodies that I would describe as even being useable in Retro, lete alone representatively Legal.
Personally I have used a few of the McLaren M6AS versions, but most are in 7thou lexan and therefore Not absolutely legal as the rules do 'suggest' 10thou, and heck the 10thou bodies are better for these Heavier cars anyway and handle the 'punishment' a bit better.
If you are looking for bodies, then Contact James or Wayne at HSC, as they currently have Quite a Range of Outisight, RedFox and JK bodies, CanAm, Coupes and F1.
I am pretty sure Outisight have a few Lola's t160's atleast.
Initially when we were getting into this Retro thing, there was Not a lot of Body choice or availability, so, wanting to be prepared and have 'Our Own' "Unfair Advantage", Fox and I have been running TrueScale bodies from the US. They are Easily the Nicest Retro Vac-Formed bodies around, with a similar appearance, clarity and crispness of detail similar to the Lancer and Dynamic bodies of the past.
The JK bodies are Quite Long, especially the McLaren M6 !!,..Once again,..NO M6 Ever looked like That, the Ti-22 works OK and the RedFox Long Nosed 'Kirby' Ti-22 is also a very nice Body, as is the same 'Kirby' shape as TrueScale's.
Like I said, give HSC a call, the Outisight Cooper F1's are good!
Oh yeah they also have the Lotus 49's, with the front winglets and Swoopy tail like as raced by Graham Hill at Monaco in Gold Leaf colours and I think may have a couple of BPR Raceways Lotus 'Indy Wedge' bodies, which are similar to those of Fox's you mentioned to me. Fox's is a Truescale (Lancer Style) and is a Lovely Body.
As I mentioned, it is because of the Melding of both D3 and IRRA rules, that 'Allows' the Indy Bodies.
One thing with the CanAm bodies, is the Retro Cut-Off date is for cars that Raced upto 1969, with 'Local' inclusions allowed.
Hope that Helps once again.
Sigh,..
You know, I have absolutely No Idea, Who, What, Why or Where, those absolute Bastardisations of The Real cars Ever came from.
It Must have been for some local SA class of Flexi's or something??
There is a Whole Bunch of Sunset Bodies like that, that seem to have 'Grown', Ti-22/March 707/Brm type perimeter Air Dam like structures, that in No way replicate the Real car.
IMHO, that particular body is SO Far from the original, that if you Had Not Told me it was even a Lola, I would Never have Guessed.
See Here; http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/1251 ... rolet.html
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z9087/Lola-T163.aspx
http://www.lolaheritage.co.uk/scrapbook ... _page6.htm
http://www.ritzsite.demon.nl/Sportscars/Lola2.htm
and that is But a few.
It was a 'development' of the 160 Series of cars and even in the latter cars, never had the 'Dished/bowled' upper surface as that body has.
I like Bob and have over the years used Many of his bodies, but I would have to say that Currently, there Aren't actually that many Sunset bodies that I would describe as even being useable in Retro, lete alone representatively Legal.
Personally I have used a few of the McLaren M6AS versions, but most are in 7thou lexan and therefore Not absolutely legal as the rules do 'suggest' 10thou, and heck the 10thou bodies are better for these Heavier cars anyway and handle the 'punishment' a bit better.
If you are looking for bodies, then Contact James or Wayne at HSC, as they currently have Quite a Range of Outisight, RedFox and JK bodies, CanAm, Coupes and F1.
I am pretty sure Outisight have a few Lola's t160's atleast.
Initially when we were getting into this Retro thing, there was Not a lot of Body choice or availability, so, wanting to be prepared and have 'Our Own' "Unfair Advantage", Fox and I have been running TrueScale bodies from the US. They are Easily the Nicest Retro Vac-Formed bodies around, with a similar appearance, clarity and crispness of detail similar to the Lancer and Dynamic bodies of the past.
The JK bodies are Quite Long, especially the McLaren M6 !!,..Once again,..NO M6 Ever looked like That, the Ti-22 works OK and the RedFox Long Nosed 'Kirby' Ti-22 is also a very nice Body, as is the same 'Kirby' shape as TrueScale's.
Like I said, give HSC a call, the Outisight Cooper F1's are good!
Oh yeah they also have the Lotus 49's, with the front winglets and Swoopy tail like as raced by Graham Hill at Monaco in Gold Leaf colours and I think may have a couple of BPR Raceways Lotus 'Indy Wedge' bodies, which are similar to those of Fox's you mentioned to me. Fox's is a Truescale (Lancer Style) and is a Lovely Body.
As I mentioned, it is because of the Melding of both D3 and IRRA rules, that 'Allows' the Indy Bodies.
One thing with the CanAm bodies, is the Retro Cut-Off date is for cars that Raced upto 1969, with 'Local' inclusions allowed.
Hope that Helps once again.
Re: New Bodies Approved in USA, 'D3'
It's always going to be an issue that the bodies that we use are not true to scale, but if we keep in mind the intention (and dare I say 'spirit') of the class is to mimic, replicate to a point, the CanAm Style slot cars that were raced in the 1960's using in-line pro-built chassis.
All of those bodies have some deviation away from the 1:1 race car, but that's what they used at the time.
So exacting copies of those slot car bodies, and/or recently made bodies of pre 1970 cars, that have been made in the same manner, scalewise, as those of the 60's is what should be used.
Stoo, I agree that most of Bob's bodies are either propper scale, or made for flexi chassis, and as such not truely suitable for our Aussie Retro. One exception (may be others) is the Ti22 which is close to the bodies available out of the USA.
Patto may have some suitable bodies as well, but I haven't seen enough to be sure.
It would be nice to have local bodies readily available.
All of those bodies have some deviation away from the 1:1 race car, but that's what they used at the time.
So exacting copies of those slot car bodies, and/or recently made bodies of pre 1970 cars, that have been made in the same manner, scalewise, as those of the 60's is what should be used.
Stoo, I agree that most of Bob's bodies are either propper scale, or made for flexi chassis, and as such not truely suitable for our Aussie Retro. One exception (may be others) is the Ti22 which is close to the bodies available out of the USA.
Patto may have some suitable bodies as well, but I haven't seen enough to be sure.
It would be nice to have local bodies readily available.
Steve King